Okay so I always wanted to eventually move to europe (I live in the US) for alot of reasons. mostly because I love the infrastructure, cities,nicer people and cheaper things, and places way better than whats offered by freedomland. I was looking online and honestly, after all these years I still feel VERY overwhelmed with the process. I dont know if I can even pull it off without a college degree. and of course the money issue.
anyone here also planning, or maybe even did move countries? I could really use some tips from non rich influencers on the internet.
so for moving to europe first thing first need a visa , you can get one for studing ( depending on country school are cheaper and you can even get one for free in France (with a lol a lot of *)) or one for working . the naturilisation processe if not one you should consider immediatly as it involved marrying someone for the most simple way .
for organisation it relativly simple : a bag of stuff and need , and eveything else is on place , bring as few thing from your home country the fee exist .
also language : people are nicer ? nah europe are just profesionnal deadpan , and depending not only on country but also city but one thing that make them definitly nicer is to be able to hold a conversation .
for tips : roomate ! roomate culture is far less prevalent in europe in general but it can work , also don't necerseraly aim for big cityes aim for acedemic one or close to one : it cheaper more likely to find roomate possibility and anything but fucking paris .
the order of operation should be : be qualified for a work or adjacent visa
find home opporunity
the big question of waht to take for the moove
then and lastly how dafuk the logistic of it all
i strongly reccomend finding what USA citizen have available in school cursus here cause we do have public school they are pretty neat
oh and lastly (non happy topic ahead)
you would be coming in a climate of general hostily toward stranger and rise in national sentiment ect.. it is not as doomy as media say it but it exist be aware , it nowhere near the shithole in the US and honnestly as long as you are not arabic people suprisingly discrimate in their discrimination
We're from Brazil, currently attempting to immigrate permanently to Canada.
We've been here for over 5 years, currently waiting for permanent residency after there was a ton of delays and issues with bureaucracy with the entire overall process, and while writing this, realized that every single person in my direct family is or has been a migrant, except for a couple of uncles, and this goes back a couple generations too.
I was writing a very long thread about all sorts of things but like... In the end it is just overwhelming and unfortunately that's just how it is. It's still worth it though.
The easiest ways to immigrate are for sure either to study in a specific institution, or to work in a specific company. Because then you'll get some assistance from the respective organization with the move and bureaucratic processes.
Well, that assuming you don't have access to citizenship from i.e. ancestrality, then that cuts down so much bureaucracy that it's easier too.
Having a college / university degree definitely helps a lot with immigrating with work. But then you also tend to need something like 3 years of professional experience too. So a lot of people immigrate earlier for study instead.
if you still plan to move to europe for the love of god dont go to paris, i have been there since a part of my family is french, and french people are not good at all to tourists or people moving to the country from spanish or english ones. (also the whole city buildings are almost all gray and bad looking , and expensive like hell to live on). i would recomend england but they are cooked rn, so if it comes to european countryes, i would recomend germany or spain (crazy say my own i know), germany and spain have minimal obligatory english until university, so everyone under 30-20 years knows “enough” to talk a bit to English speakers who dont know the natal language, if they are fluent on it or not is more of a personal thing that gets chosen or not, both countryes lack on workers on the traits area like carpentry, welding, pluming, electricians etc,from my knowledge if you want a loot of money go to germany, if you want money and more “chill enviroment” go to a “tourist city” on spain or close to one, since all bussiness there give priority to pleople with actual english speaking experience or degree’s soo comunication would be easyer, i dont know about germany since i havent traveled there.
As a general piece of advice speaking as someone with a lot of experience on the subject of migrating - while people's firsthand accounts are good and they're a good place to get ideas, the best and most important thing you can do is find yourself an immigration lawyer in whichever country you're interested in. Many of them will offer consultations for either free or very low cost - me and my princess' lawyer charges the equivalent of $250 US per consultation; and after the first one we walked away with a clear picture of all our options and plans for the place we were consulting for. The one I spoke to privately previously for an asylum-specific consultation charged me nothing - and many will answer questions via e-mail for free within certain lengths.
Part of the reason why you want to reach out to a lawyer is that often times immigration information in government websites is intentionally either incomplete or vague, so as to discourage people who would qualify for applying. Immigration lawyers know all the specific edge cases that people get in through.
Be smart about it, of course; before ponying up any cash, consider looking around for reviews, and always keep a second option in your back pocket - scams and human trafficking operations prey on the ignorant and the unprepared. If you're unsure where to look for trustworthy legal advice, reach out to migrant or refugee support groups or nonprofits in the country you have in mind; they might be able to help you find something in the place you're going towards.
Finally - always remember to check where you have family or work connections that you might be able to use in your favor - maybe your parents have a cousin abroad somewhere that can set you up with something, maybe your employer has an office somewhere else they might be able to help connect you to. Try to move to places where you know people, even if you won't be in the same area as them it's important to have a support network or people able to explain things you don't immediately understand. It will also help to assuage the loneliness and isolation you will feel when you get there - people don't often think about how difficult it is to adjust to a new living environment until they do it. It will be hard, you will be homesick even for a place you have no attachment to, and having others by your side will help assuage that feeling somewhat.
I have been on the long and arduous trail of fleeing one place and then another for the past 10 years, it is difficult and it is something that is intentionally adversarial, but rest assured that there is an end to this journey. Patience and careful planning will be your most trusted allies in the journey ahead.